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I started this topic to create a discussion on the mechanical properties of the “SeaEngine" attached.



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Tying energy sources together multiplies the energy output.

Below is a short description of how this machine works. It is based on the diagram of a machine titled “SeaEngine”, see attached

(1) cubic foot of displaced seawater has a lifting force of 64 pounds (USA) when held underwater.  

The two-dimensional JPG drawing titled “SeaEngine” is a cross-sectional view of the ocean from a depth of 0 (1ATM) to a depth of 495 feet= 150.88 meters or (15ATM) +/- in water depth.

The diagram shows fifteen (15) balloons on the right moving up and 15 on the other side moving down. An easier way of envisioning this is to substitute the balloons with inverted umbrellas.


When an umbrella rounds the bottom and starts to rise compressed air is pumped into the lower umbrella. The air in the umbrella will try to rise with a lifting force of 64-foot pounds per square foot.

The pull of gravity is naturalized because the same number of umbrellas going up are going down.

The drag or resistance on the system is the combined weight of the cables and umbrellas.

In this example each umbrella weighs 200 pounds. There are fifteen (15) umbrellas. The combined weight of the umbrellas is therefore (200X15) = 3,000 us pounds.

To overcome this resistance to rising 3,000/64 = 46.875 cubic feet of air needs to be injected in the lower umbrella. This will neutralize the resistance of weight.

The lifting force of any additional air injected into the system will add to its torque force.

Am I on track or have I left the rail?


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A problem I am sure i am not alone with - in viewing items on - say - a mobile phone, the screen (and deteriorating eyesight) is insufficient to view detail with any clarity...

Your last comment seems to indicate a little "frustration" at the lack of comment or follow up on your post...having spent a significant amount of time replying to his exact topic over the last couple of years, I can empathise...so, following on from the PM which you read on 6th November and has not been acknowledged...

When "running", you should not "fill" the lowest brolly!...as it rises, the air will expand as per your calculation. The force generated will be identical to the sum of the displaced water - which increases as per your calculations - as the pressure drops.

The trick on this - to maximise efficiency - is to add "just enough" air to the lowest receptacle to allow for maximum displacement at the highest point.  It will require a little "assistance" to start - probably more air in the first instance, but then any addition is purely waste as it will bubble out as it gets higher...of course there would actually be an increase in displacement throughout the system and therefore more power for that increased displacement, but the efficiency would be far lower.

The main thing with the brollies (umbrellas) is they fold on the downward stroke, minimising hydraulic resistance, and therefore maximising available energy for utilisation elsewhere.

The up-side and down-side are balanced from a weight perspective, so hydraulic drag and internal machine losses are the only real system energy "costs" - the line-weights balance and therefore become negligible.

From a material perspective, I would suggest the use of Copper for your cogs and - most likely - a copper (or very high Cu-alloy alternative) bushings for bearings. Copper has the near-unique benefit of preventing biological build-up which would sap the energy - of course, you could use either gold or silver too, but costs are a little higher! Other materials can be used at other areas, but I strongly suggest you utilise anti-biological materials (or coatings) for any submerged moving parts as the losses would otherwise mount very quickly!



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